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#1 WorldsReunited

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:50

With all the complaints on Twitter about "oh no Europe is ethnically diverse and how dare you guys talk about politics," I just wanted to come out and say that I really appreciate how diverse the world and characters are. If the controversies are a sign of anything, it's a sign that you created a realistic and believable world.

Thank you.
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#2 TheBigBad1013

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:59

I have only heard a little about the recent controversy but I think it's great that the game embraces openness, tolerance and acceptance. If some people actually get upset about that stuff in the game, then I really do feel sorry for them.

 

Great job Red Thread Games!



#3 somnolentsurfer

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:22

There's been a controversy?

 

Yes, it's amazing. i think it's brilliant that a game dares to talk about politics.



#4 Eveolene

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:24

Seconding the "Controversy?" question. Clearly, I've missed something.


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#5 WorldsReunited

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:29

Some Twitter quotes:

 

"Why are you peddling utter lies in your game? Europe isn't america, it's white homeland, like africa is black homeland"

"If it makes you feel better to call people racists when you know damn well why they're really upset, best of luck to you."

"I'll crusade to make sure no one I know ever plays your games. Disgusting SJWs."

"It's made buy idiots who think that Europe was always multiracial. And that is totally and utterly false."

"It's propaganda, had to put you guys right, can't have you spouting rubbish and looking stupid now can i?"



#6 Tina

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:30

Not controversy on the forums, as far as I've seen (or some small isolated cases). But there's been some stuff on twitter, and I've also seen a link to some 4chan crazy stuff, iirc. Probably things on other places as well, internet is stupid (and I love this forum for being mainly troll free, even after release issues, delays and a ton of new people registering).

 

It is ridiculous, really..

 

I like this tweet from Ragnar, "Tired... but proud.":

 


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#7 Pawlo_86

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:34

What a crap. Political influences in Europolis are just Ragnar's fictional story. IT IS FICTION!



#8 somnolentsurfer

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:36

Ah. My normal Twitter time has largely been taken up by these forums since the game came out.  :)

 

Excuse me while I go RT that...


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:38

Some Twitter quotes:

 

"Why are you peddling utter lies in your game? Europe isn't america, it's white homeland, like africa is black homeland"

"If it makes you feel better to call people racists when you know damn well why they're really upset, best of luck to you."

"I'll crusade to make sure no one I know ever plays your games. Disgusting SJWs."

"It's made buy idiots who think that Europe was always multiracial. And that is totally and utterly false."

"It's propaganda, had to put you guys right, can't have you spouting rubbish and looking stupid now can i?"

 

Yeah, I don't use Twitter, so this is completely off my radar.

 

I don't get the context of these tweets. Are they complaining that Europolis is too multicultural? Brb, snorting with laughter into my coffee.


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#10 Pawlo_86

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:39

Yeah, I don't use Twitter, so this is completely off my radar.

 

I don't get the context of these tweets. Are they complaining that Europolis is too multicultural? Brb, snorting with laughter into my coffee.

 

..and that Ragnar put some socialist propaganda there.



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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:40

Some Twitter quotes:

 

"Why are you peddling utter lies in your game? Europe isn't america, it's white homeland, like africa is black homeland"

"If it makes you feel better to call people racists when you know damn well why they're really upset, best of luck to you."

"I'll crusade to make sure no one I know ever plays your games. Disgusting SJWs."

"It's made buy idiots who think that Europe was always multiracial. And that is totally and utterly false."

"It's propaganda, had to put you guys right, can't have you spouting rubbish and looking stupid now can i?"

 

:blink:

 

Where in the WORLD do these people LIVE?

 

I... I don't even... *Facepalm*


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#12 Pawlo_86

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:41

:blink:

 

Where in the WORLD do this people LIVE?

 

I... I don't even... *Facepalm*

 

They're possed by Undreaming :P


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#13 Silvirish4ever

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:43

I'd rather have dinner with the Undreaming that listen to the nonsense of these dudes.


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#14 Eveolene

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:45

..and that Ragnar put some socialist propaganda there.

 

It's all part of a super secret plot! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!

 

But seriously, I live in the most multicultural city in the UK. I think "immigrants" is a pretty blanket term that some people like to throw at anyone they think doesn't look like they belong. But I mean, my mum is French-Vietnamese, my dad's grandad was Malaysian, we're probably all immigrant babies if you go back far enough. If you're American, then not even that far back. And if Scotland had gone independent, would that make me an immigrant because I'm Scottish? Pfft, what nonsense.

 

I need more coffee. Also Europolis is awesome.


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"I will stop doing this thing that I love and makes me feel happy and fulfilled to follow you to the next stop on our pointless, depressing journey." - Shitbot

 

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:48

I was very surprised when I heard about it, especially because I love this world so much. But in the end, all things considered, it just makes me love this game even more.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:59

I'm a mixture like Eveolene. I call myself a mongrel and I'm proud of it. I think all of my grand-parents were immigrants to the UK (from different parts of the world).



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Posted 28 October 2014 - 13:05

Ragnar did get some "negative" attention for speaking up against GamerGate stuff, so I suppose these are the same people / types of people. There hsve also been a few Steam forum discussions that turned ugly.

I guess some people had trouble with there being non-white people in Europolis. I just have to laugh at them, because it's too ridiculous.
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#18 DollyDagger

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 13:05

I... wha? Did a bunch of crazy people just get upset because of a suggestion in a video game that Europe is or was or will be culturally diverse? Is that what is happening here? That's.. somewhat baffling.. Out of curiosity, what are we SUPPOSED to think instead? What is the hypothetical approved stance of these people?

 

I'm also not on twitter, and I don't feel like I'm missing much.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 13:14

This is the proof that Konstantin Wolf would actually have plenty of chances to win the elections. Despite all the hate, I cannot help but feel fascinated at how REAL all of this is.

 

Also, I am an immigrant. Should I consider hiring a bodyguard...? Sheesh.


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#20 Lee-m

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 13:16

You'd think these people had never been to a major city before or heard of that thing called transport... ya know.... something that can move people from one country to another.

 

Maybe I live in some kind of internet bubble not having twitter or most social media (I stick to facebook with a fairly small group of friends), but even I find that people would take the time and effort to attack none AA game in this way, pretty shocking.


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