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#61 LizzieDream9

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 05:09

I can't find the edit button to edit my last post. It's probably right in front of me. Anyway...

 

I was wrong about Zoe mentioning her friends Kat and (forgot his name already) in her journal. It's actually when she's thinking about what to say to Ada that she mentions how she would like to go back to the university someday and see them. The way she phrased it, it sounded like she hadn't contacted them at all yet. They might be gone too. 


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#62 merryawe

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 10:27

 

How would WATI know about Olivia?

 

 

 

I'm not sure if i remember things properly but wasn't there a situation where Olivia get's caught on using the corporation's line while contacting Zoe abroad? (Saying she doesn't have much time before she gets tracked, then suddenly cursing and hanging up on Zoe. Was there something like this?)



#63 Indrid Cold

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 10:41

I'm not sure if i remember things properly but wasn't there a situation where Olivia get's caught on using the corporation's line while contacting Zoe abroad? (Saying she doesn't have much time before she gets tracked, then suddenly cursing and hanging up on Zoe. Was there something like this?)

Indeed, last time they spoke. That was the EYE I think.

Afterwards, she assisted by updating the hacking software on Zoë's phone and later on sent a message about hiding somewhere (I think) and having a lot of reading to do.


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#64 Kari2

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 20:05

Indeed, last time they spoke. That was the EYE I think.

Afterwards, she assisted by updating the hacking software on Zoë's phone and later on sent a message about hiding somewhere (I think) and having a lot of reading to do.

 

It is possible that what Zoe has been told about Damien and Olivia is what Wati Corp wants her to believe and not the truth - others have indicated this by their disbelief that Liv has actually been caught.



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 13:14

It is possible that what Zoe has been told about Damien and Olivia is what Wati Corp wants her to believe and not the truth - others have indicated this by their disbelief that Liv has actually been caught.

I agree. I actually don't believe that the conspiracy has been exposed. I have hard time trying to believe that anyone would buy dreamers after announcement that that they were originally created to brainwash people. I think Zoe's dating fake Reza, Roman's job is to prevent her from remembering anything. So she's surrounded by Wati people who are watching her and making her believe what they need her to believe. I don't think we were given any proof that Reza did expose the conspiracy.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 13:23

But people on the streets are commenting about that whole Dreamer business, aren't they? Or am I remembering things wrong? You're not saying all Europolis is a setup?



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 13:31

But people on the streets are commenting about that whole Dreamer business, aren't they? Or am I remembering things wrong? You're not saying all Europolis is a setup?

No, I think people on the streets are just ordinary people. They understand that these dream machines are very addictive, but I heard no comments from them on how dangerous they could have been if it hadn't been for exposure. For example MacDonald's in Japan lost many customers last year when it was announced about several cases of plastic etc being found in their food. They lost a lot of money and reputation because of that, and are reporting lost revenues for the first time in 11 years. That's why I doubt that dream machines would be such a hit if any exposure happened.



#68 Indrid Cold

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 14:16

I have hard time trying to believe that anyone would buy dreamers after announcement that that they were originally created to brainwash people.

But that's not what the announcement was. They said that Damien hacked into Dreamnet in order to spy on people, which is very different. It wasn't done by WATI themselves.


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#69 ChrisR

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 14:48

But that's not what the announcement was. They said that Damien hacked into Dreamnet in order to spy on people, which is very different. It wasn't done by WATI themselves.

It still sounds dangerous, right? Wasn't Damien WATI's employee? Would people trust this company after this?



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Posted 11 February 2015 - 16:42

Like nobody trusts Google or Facebook?


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#71 Vanya-illin

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 18:48

Like nobody trusts Google or Facebook?


What? Of course I trust them. The Computer is our friend!

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 19:20

What? Of course I trust them. The Computer is our friend!

Love the Paranoia reference.



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Posted 22 February 2015 - 10:02

Just scanned through this thread and the quick poll that needs asking is this -

 

If either Damien or Liv were to turn out to still be alive and going to continue/resolve their part in the story, which of them would you want it to be?

 

'Faking the dead' Damien or Olivia, who do you want to Liv?


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#74 Mr Moo

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 12:17

Just scanned through this thread and the quick poll that needs asking is this -

 

If either Damien or Liv were to turn out to still be alive and going to continue/resolve their part in the story, which of them would you want it to be?

 

'Faking the dead' Damien or Olivia, who do you want to Liv?

 

I want to meet Olivia again. Damien is dead. :P



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Posted 22 February 2015 - 12:47

Olivia, easily. Damien was a plot device.


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#76 Dreamincolours

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 17:46

I would like to see Olivia again



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Posted 22 February 2015 - 20:16

For the sake of (the) balance ( :P), I'll say Damien. He knew all about Eingana, and we never found out the significance of his last words to Zoë being the same as what Reza had once said to her. Liv just sent you hacking mini-games. Yeah, thanks for that.  :rolleyes:


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#78 DollyDagger

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 22:35

I know who I want to Liv.

 

(cmon she can't be dead can she?? *trembling bottom lip*)


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#79 Mr Moo

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 23:31

I know who I want to Liv.

(cmon she can't be dead can she?? *trembling bottom lip*)


Maybe Zoe may give some Liv aid?

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 12:43

I want them both back.





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