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#61 Lee-m

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 19:35

Ferdows said in Book Three that machines are programming ultimate message and it will be send to Tower and Tower is final part of Engine and it will feeding and molding the dreams and changing the world...for better. It was all told in game. Play Engine Room part in Book Three!

I did play that a few times. You sure he mentioned dreams ? I'll take a look again at some point. But its still all very obscure at best.

But I don't want to get side tracked by one point.

Currently the unanswered question list is vast.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 19:41

"We are tracking dreams"

"Dreams are very complex. That why we need big ticking Engin with lots of parts"

"The Engine feeds on blocks of reality - ideas, stories, Dreams!"

"That's the last component of Engine - the Tower. The one that will start feeding on and molding the dreams changing the world...for the better yeah."
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Posted 10 March 2016 - 19:49

"We are tracking dreams"

"Dreams are very complex. That why we need big ticking Engin with lots of parts"

"The Engine feeds on blocks of reality - ideas, stories, Dreams!"

"That's the last component of Engine - the Tower. The one that will start feeding on and molding the dreams changing the world...for the better yeah."

Maybe I do need to replay that part over, it's been a while ;)
Also I haven't played book 4 more than once.

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 22:46

So, do we agree at this point that the ending of DF (tower exterior with thunder and lightning) is really in book five? Or is that still debatable?
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#65 Lee-m

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 22:49

So, do we agree at this point that the ending of DF (tower exterior with thunder and lightning) is really in book five? Or is that still debatable?

Given Ragnar's comments on that, it is still debatable. He seemed to disregard it as magical people being used to storms.
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Posted 10 March 2016 - 23:32

"We are tracking dreams"
"Dreams are very complex. That why we need big ticking Engin with lots of parts"
"The Engine feeds on blocks of reality - ideas, stories, Dreams!"
"That's the last component of Engine - the Tower. The one that will start feeding on and molding the dreams changing the world...for the better yeah."

I still can't figure out what the link between the Undreaming and the machine is. They seem to have conflicting objectives, yet both are initiatives by the prophet.
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Posted 11 March 2016 - 07:34

About storm over Tower - it can't be Book Five because the scene was set in winter. I think that it was Chaos Storm as sign for bad things releated to Tower.

About Undreaming and machine - My theory is that Undreaming (inside Prophet) wants use machine to destroy Lux's Dream.

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Posted 11 March 2016 - 07:45

I still can't figure out what the link between the Undreaming and the machine is. They seem to have conflicting objectives, yet both are initiatives by the prophet.

 

Although it's very highly probable, it's still speculation. We don't know inequivocably that the propher is even linked to the Undreaming. 


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 07:45

"That's the last component of Engine - the Tower. The one that will start feeding on and molding the dreams changing the world...for the better yeah."

 

 

About Undreaming and machine - My theory is that Undreaming (inside Prophet) wants use machine to destroy Lux's Dream.

 

Look, I know that you usually have it all figured out, are way ahead of me when it comes to the story line and I usually don't dare disagree with you ;)  but feeding and molding dreams is sort of the opposite of destroying (UNdreaming) dreams. I just think that is a stark (no pun intended) contrast.

 

It's always the same though, you're right and I just didn't get it yet haha :)


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 10:15

I still can't figure out what the link between the Undreaming and the machine is. They seem to have conflicting objectives, yet both are initiatives by the prophet.

Ferdows didn't know the truth about what happens to the magicals. Perhaps he also doesn't know the (entire) truth about what the machine is meant to do, just enough to do his part in designing it.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 13:08

Ferdows didn't know the truth about what happens to the magicals. Perhaps he also doesn't know the (entire) truth about what the machine is meant to do, just enough to do his part in designing it.

 

Yeah I guess that could very well be....Although I hope not: I'm tired of the "I'm just a cog part of the machine, I don't know what it does" cliché.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 14:08

Yeah I guess that could very well be....Although I hope not: I'm tired of the "I'm just a cog part of the machine, I don't know what it does" cliché.

 

You didn't get the vibe that Ferdows is such a nerd, and buried so deep in the inner workings of the machine, that he isn't really aware of the bigger picture?


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 16:11

You didn't get the vibe that Ferdows is such a nerd, and buried so deep in the inner workings of the machine, that he isn't really aware of the bigger picture?

I'm sure that's what he wants you to think. The truth is...
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Posted 11 March 2016 - 16:25

You didn't get the vibe that Ferdows is such a nerd, and buried so deep in the inner workings of the machine, that he isn't really aware of the bigger picture?

 

It's been a long while since book 3 so I might have forgotten it...actually, to be honest, I really didn't like that whole conversation so I might have just removed it from memory (I also mentioned how long it was in the "your honest opinion" thread).
So I guess it was the cliché. Oh well, bummer.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 16:26

I'm sure that's what he wants you to think. The truth is...

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#76 Ikon

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Posted 11 March 2016 - 18:35

Being a nerd myself, I've never seen anyone successfully fake it. There are just too many really easy (to a nerd that is) questions that they just can't answer.


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Posted 12 March 2016 - 13:24

So is episode 5 dropping soon? :o



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Posted 12 March 2016 - 16:07

So is episode 5 dropping soon? :o


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Posted 13 March 2016 - 15:34

Being a nerd myself, I've never seen anyone successfully fake it. There are just too many really easy (to a nerd that is) questions that they just can't answer.

 

True, but then again, he did seem like he was trying too hard to be nerdy. You know, like somebody told him what nerds are like and he took to the idea way to enthusiastically. I think he may be suspect XD.


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#80 Ikon

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 01:46

While it can be completely ruled out, I think he knows way too much about the machine and its inner workings to not be a true nerd.


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