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#81 Pawlo_86

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 07:06

When you will compare Baba Yaga concept from Steam Card and Nox art then you will see some similiarities - white face with red eyes. I think that Yaga/Nox is from the same race as Lux.

I have no idea how Undreaming can be releated to Lux-Nox case.

#82 Kianismybae

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 13:19

I also thought that the Storytime was outside Lux dream. I forget, was this explained already one way or another in game? 

 

I just finished playing Book 1 again because I need a refresh before the next book is released and noticed that the White of the Kin, who appears at the end to Saga, kind of looks like the image of Nox--you can see there is long black hair across her face in the Book 4 art. So maybe Nox is a personification of the undreaming, using the White Kin's form, after she was attacked in Dreamfall TLJ? In a way possessing her? It would make sense that if the darkness was before time, and before the Storytime that it could be the undreaming, and that it is coming back now to undo the dream (everything being a cycle and the end having to come about the same way as the beginning).

 

As for the one becoming three: if we are assuming it is talking about worlds, maybe Lux dream = the real world, and then the dream split that one world into the two dream worlds, Stark and Arcadia? So the three worlds are Lux' world, Stark and Arcadia.

 

If the One and Three are people, then I have no idea; there are so many candidates!

 I notice this... What could be the undreaming before the dream. It has not sense. OMG I'm going crazy with this game  



#83 Kianismybae

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:38

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I see so necessary to post this. I want to be a time traveler and  go to november 2015 right now . The wait will be horrible

 

PS: I am the only crazy who sees a  balance symbol in the dark tentacles of  ¿Nox?... Are RTG trying to say us something?


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#84 Ringtail

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:41

Thanks!!

So, what do we make of the fact that Lux and Nox have taken the place of the Symbol of the Balance in the center of the key art?
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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:42

Slightly larger version here. :)


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:45

So Nox = Undreaming? i wonder how Yaga fit into this.

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:48

I'd say the Baba is likely one of Nox's agents in Arcadia.
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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:53

I am the only crazy who sees a  balance symbol in the dark tentacles of  ¿Nox?... Are RTG trying to say us something?

So, what do we make of the fact that Lux and Nox have taken the place of the Symbol of the Balance in the center of the key art?

Definitely intentional. I compared to the symbol, most of the tendrils have the same shape.


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#89 Pawlo_86

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:53

Nox doesn't look like Yaga from Steam Card or concept art.

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 16:58

Also the balance of dreams:

Lux - Dreaming
Nox - Undreaming
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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:04

Agreed that the shapes of Nox's undreamy tendrils are intentionally echoing the Symbol of the Balance. I don't know if that's just an artistic choice, or something with more cosmological significance -- like, the Balance between Stark and Arcadia is the result of "chaining" the Undreaming?
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#92 Kianismybae

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:05

Is clearly that Nox its not Yaga... I think maybe Nox is more powerful than Yaga.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:09

Maybe during "Tainted" we never saw full scale of Undreaming...so is Brian working for Nox? Is he The Prophet of Nox?
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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:12

The symbol of the balance has been integrated into all of the key art thus far. Sometimes more subtly than other times. Still not entirely sure what the significance is. But this makes me more convinced that the events of the Dreamer Cycle are connected to the Balance (and likely the lead up to the War of the Balance?).

 

Still thinking we've got a Dark/Light duality thing going on. And the Undreaming is the product of that balance getting all out of whack. Maybe. Nggg....so many questions and theories. 


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#95 Kianismybae

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:14

Maybe during "Tainted" we never saw full scale of Undreaming...so is Brian working for Nox? Is he The Prophet?

 

Or Nox is the Prophet. No one has seen the Prophet's face.  If you remind the Saga's drawings  in the Brian drawing  there is a human shaped dark form with tendrils. It reaffirm the theories of @Pawlo_86.  Brian or nox are the Prophet :)



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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:14

And why Cortez and monks wanted to unleash Nox/Undreaming???

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:18

Maybe Cortez and the monks  were cheated by some entity... I don't know what we can expect  in this chapter


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:20

I don't think so that Nox is Prophet. Prophet is a human. So if Nox is Undreaming then Brian is Prophet.

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:30

Not sure what I missed, but I don't think Cortez tried to unleash the Undreaming.

Hey Ubisoft, you can keep your "seamless vast online GTA in space" to yourselves. Signed, one of the greatest Beyond Good & Evil fans alive.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 17:42

Not sure what I missed, but I don't think Cortez tried to unleash the Undreaming.

My pet theory. Will elaborate later, from a better device.





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