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#1 Zach055

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 17:19

I entered the city and the blue kid showed me where the National Front meeting was. I talked to the guard and I followed the angry women. As I was trying to find my way back to where the meeting was, I got lost. I cannot find the meeting or the angry women. The maps don't help since it doesn't tell me which direction I'm facing when I'm looking at the sign. If someone could post a detailed map or detailed directions than I could find my way.



#2 Vainamoinen

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 17:22

Are there any landmarks that you CAN find? Maybe we can give directions from there...


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 17:23

I just explored until I happened upon the angry woman. She's not very far from the NF meeting. 

 

Can't really post any detailed description of where to go without knowing where you are, though.


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 17:35

you want to be in the bones. there are only a few streets through there. Should be fairly easy to find.



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Posted 14 March 2015 - 18:11

you want to be in the bones. there are only a few streets through there. Should be fairly easy to find.

 

Its not easy, I have been wondering around the city for hours trying to find the angry women, and even when I find the angry woman I cannot find the meeting place.



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Posted 14 March 2015 - 18:13

If you found the woman, the meeting is in the small alleyway to your right (if your back is towards the sea).
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Posted 14 March 2015 - 18:36

If you found the woman, the meeting is in the small alleyway to your right (if your back is towards the sea).

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#8 Ikon

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 00:33

The maps are actually pretty easy to use. You have to note what direction you're facing when you look at the map. For example, if you're in a large open space like a market, take note of which part of the space the map is located in. Then note the paths leading in and out of the space. By using those, you can figure out which way you're facing, so you can then figure out which path to take to get where you want to go. It takes a little practice, but gets easier the more you do it.


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#9 Mr Moo

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 00:37

I guess this is what I do quite naturally? Because I have never even thought about finding my heading to be a challenge. :blink:


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 02:49

I got lost in Marcuria OFTEN when first there as Kian.  It was dreadful and the maps drove me crazy, I was forever going in the wrong direction and not paying attention to landmarks enough to read the maps properly - it was definitely user error.  My anxiety kept getting the best of me despite the veil.  I even fell asleep a few times trying to familiarize myself.  My gameplay hours are INSANE.

 

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 02:59

do the opposite of what the map tells you for left and right headings. So the star indicating where you at, if you want to go right, you just go left.

 

Then proceed from there slowly. i guess?


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 19:03

North is always up hill. You can figure out pretty much everything just based on that. Plus if you can see that 500ft tower thats a good land mark to help you :)
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 19:20

do the opposite of what the map tells you for left and right headings. So the star indicating where you at, if you want to go right, you just go left.

 

Then proceed from there slowly. i guess?

 

While this is humourous, I'm not sure it's the greatest advice. It kind of depends on which way the map is facing. Some face south, some west, some north, etc. I think you need to figure out which way you're facing so, when you look at the map, you can figure out whether you're currently facing toward the top, bottom, left, or right of the map.


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 19:43

e.g. If the map is near a T-junction, you can orient it by lining up the T-junction on the map with the T-junction in the world.

Or if not a T-junction, then any other feature with doesn't have rotational symmetry.

EDIT: I mean this is just map reading. It's not any different from reading maps in the real world.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 19:52

Partly related: during a year of study abroad, in the US, I did a geology 101 class. And was amazed at how even basic map reading skills eluded US college freshmen. We were using topographic maps and stratigraphic profiles to show how the layers of rock were running, and most of them had no clue... I consider map reading a necessary skill for functioning in society, but perhaps I have too high standards. ;)
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 21:19

I suck at wilderness map navigation (the you are here dot would help immensely - I suck at finding my outdoors position on a map), but I'm fairly good at building and city map navigation.



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Posted 15 March 2015 - 21:23

There IS a "you are here" thing in the Marcuria maps, it's the "cross in a circle" symbol.


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 21:23

Partly related: during a year of study abroad, in the US, I did a geology 101 class. And was amazed at how even basic map reading skills eluded US college freshmen. We were using topographic maps and stratigraphic profiles to show how the layers of rock were running, and most of them had no clue... I consider map reading a necessary skill for functioning in society, but perhaps I have too high standards. ;)

 

Where in the U.S. did you study? ;) 

 

I'm honestly curious. Because standardization with a lot of that stuff varies so much depending on where you're at here. I remember learning a lot about maps at various points in my education. I kinda like topographic maps actually (gasp) and I remember doing an entire unite on them in at least one of my science classes. Though I have friends who definitely didn't. 

 

I still have serious issues reading maps, but it wasn't for a lack of coverage in the curriculum at my school. 


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#19 toremygg

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 21:27

Where in the U.S. did you study? ;)

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 21:34

Maps seem to be one of those things that were invented by men so men find them easiest to use. My wife and I are poster children for the differences. I navigate by direction and distance; she navigates by familiar landmarks. I think it would be really interesting to see some maps drawn from a woman's perspective. I suspect other women would find them easy to use, and men wouldn't be able to make head or tail out of them ;)


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