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#241 Mr Moo

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 00:11

Funny. I'd say that getting a cup of eternal youth and happiness isn't perfect. It's ideal. But now we're really getting down to arguing semantics. 

 

I'm not even so sure anyone would be eternally happy by having an eternal youth ...


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 00:24

I'm also of the opinion that "perfection" is attainable, just subjective. Love seeing how different minds view the concept - wonder what it says about each of us?

 

And I'm also of the opinion that this forum = best forum.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 00:35

I'm not even so sure anyone would be eternally happy by having an eternal youth ...

Which is why the cup contained both youth and happiness  :P


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 05:28

Dear Lord, you start a thread, give it care, love, and attention, even get some dev involvement, and then bam! Before you know it, it's been overrun with epistemological navel-gazing.

I think we need to refocus on what's really important here, people! Does no one care that at 0:58 in the trailer, we get our first glimpse of Bip? I mean, it's motherfucking Bip, people!

(Totally kidding, BTW, as evidenced by these smilies: :P :D. ;) )

EDIT: But not about Bip. That's totally Bip.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 07:14

Prefect way to rerail the thread, Andy! :D

And what do people think about the rather dark themes of corporate violence, incarceration of dissidents, the rounding up and killing of those "different" from you? This thing is going DARK, baby!
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#246 Mr Moo

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 07:23

Which is why the cup contained both youth and happiness

So, you lose the ability to feel any emotion but happiness? This sounds like a really undesirable condition.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:54

Based on the last bits we heard about it, I'm pretty sure you're right. I really doubt we'll see it in Book Two (or rather, at the launch of Book Two). I just hope it doesn't get scrapped. 

 

We are still planning on including this — but we decided to leave it out of Book Two. There's only so much we could cram in without causing a dimensional vortex of some kind. Unity is teetering on the edge of collapse with this game; we didn't want to push our luck any further.

 

Our pencilled plan is to get it into (a) subsequent book(s). Failing that, it'll be in the 'Complete Edition'/'Director's Cut'/'Bigger, Longer, Uncut' edition of the game that we plan to release after all five episodes are out — the one that goes on the discs and the USBs.

 

We do plan to keep our promises, but we have to spread things out a bit: with ten people working in production (that's our current staff on Dreamfall) — and doing testing in addition! — there are limits to our capabilities.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:58

Also, I adore this place. 

 

Right? This forum is the BEST forum in the world, and I'm not saying that to win points. You guys know how honest — and disagreeable! — I can be, and I mean it: this must be the only place on the internets where people are actually nice and civil and willing to listen and learn and discuss without shouting at each other and being sexist or racist or some other sort of -ist and I'm rambling but GOD I LOVE THIS PLACE.

 

Between the awful Twitter-ing and the Steam-forum-ing and the Facebook-ing, this is my safe haven, my happy place.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 09:16

I don't think it's the ONLY place.  But certainly one of the very, very few.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 10:18

I know of other places, and it's usually places where developers talk much. But it's maybe the chicken and the egg problem. Do developers stay away from forums that are toxic ? Or are forums more toxic because developers stay away and users generally only see one side of the gaming uinverse which is that of "customer only" :P



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Posted 27 February 2015 - 10:47

Our pencilled plan is to get it into (a) subsequent book(s). Failing that, it'll be in the 'Complete Edition'/'Director's Cut'/'Bigger, Longer, Uncut' edition of the game

 

Because that's what Brian Boitano would do?

 

o.o


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 15:12

Our pencilled plan is to get it into (a) subsequent book(s). Failing that, it'll be in the 'Complete Edition'/'Director's Cut'/'Bigger, Longer, Uncut' edition of the game that we plan to release after all five episodes are out — the one that goes on the discs and the USBs.

 

Wait I'm a little confused. Is there going to be another version of the game I'm going to need to buy after all the episodes are released in order to get the Director's Cut of the game? I thought the version being released was the Director's Cut that we hit at the $1.5 million stretch goal, or is this something different?



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Posted 27 February 2015 - 15:22

I'm just guessing here but it'll probably be a patch after all episodes are out.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 15:56

I know of other places, and it's usually places where developers talk much. But it's maybe the chicken and the egg problem. Do developers stay away from forums that are toxic ? Or are forums more toxic because developers stay away and users generally only see one side of the gaming uinverse which is that of "customer only" :P

 

The first one. If a forum gets toxic, devs don't have the energy to engage anymore. After all, making games is hard work, there's only so much aggravation you can take in addition to that.

 

You guys are a soothing salve.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 15:59

I'm just guessing here but it'll probably be a patch after all episodes are out.

 

Yup.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 16:14

We are still planning on including this 

 

Yaaaay. :3

 

I wasn't trying to imply that I thought you guys were going to let it become a broken promise. I know you wouldn't want that to be the case. I just wasn't sure if it was running into implementation snags or any of the other things that sometimes derail these sorts of things. Best laid plans and all. 

 

Thanks for the update there. Much appreciated.

 

Right? This forum is the BEST forum in the world, and I'm not saying that to win points. You guys know how honest — and disagreeable! — I can be, and I mean it: this must be the only place on the internets where people are actually nice and civil and willing to listen and learn and discuss without shouting at each other and being sexist or racist or some other sort of -ist and I'm rambling but GOD I LOVE THIS PLACE.

 

Between the awful Twitter-ing and the Steam-forum-ing and the Facebook-ing, this is my safe haven, my happy place.

 

STOP JINXING IT. 


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 18:45

About the perfection argument. Tell me which one looks best when looking at you're girlfriend:

 

-Oh, she's perfect  :wub:

-Oh, she's kinda good, one could almost say she's perfect, but we all know perfection is a concept not applicable in real life because...[bla, bla bla]

 

Choose one.

 

If you're wondering what my point is here it goes:

If you spend all day arguing semantics you'll miss the real life.

 

BTW, technical question for RTG folks, will the new Book be distributed in Steam as an update (meaning auto-download) or will it be a DLC (meaning no auto-download)?

 

EDIT: Just to clarify, i don't mean payment, I understand we get the full game, I just mean how is it going to be "marked". In other words, will it have its own ID?


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 18:57

My understanding is that it will be an automatically downloaded update/patch but feel free to correct me RTG people if I'm wrong.
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#259 Vanya-illin

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 19:02

This discussion is causing me to recall "Girl Genius" and Vanamonde's encounter with the perfect cup of coffee. "I'm sure it will wear off." "Good, because he's starting to creep me out."


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 19:06

Tell me which one looks best when looking at you're girlfriend:

 

Good thing khh isn't my girlfriend. ;) 

 

In all seriousness, I agree that there's a point at which arguing semantics isn't helpful. On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with friendly debate on these things. 

 

Read: I'd rather have a girlfriend who doesn't mind sparring on weird random topics from time to time. :P

 

My understanding is that it will be an automatically downloaded update/patch but feel free to correct me RTG people if I'm wrong.

 

That is my understanding as well, but I'm not an expert on how all of that works. 


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